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I am 1 yr postpartum with my first child and just now I feel myself re-opening to my open fluid view of relationships. During my pregnancy and postpartum time I felt very very very fearful of my partner being with any other woman. I always was willing to challenge myself to be okay w/ it during this time, but our experiences until lately were disastrous. I'm curious if any one else felt this overwhelming biological need to be monogamous during this highly emotional and hormonal time! - M
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Re: fuidity during pregnancy
Fri, August 3, 2007 - 10:46 PMA friend of mine who happens to be very pregnant right now went through this very thing as part of her pregnancy.
She's poly and loves sex. She'd love to continue having lots of it, along with her various partners, right up to the delivery. She's also very much not the jealous type and would never want to limit her partners' activities unnecessarily.
So here's the rub: after taking a serious look at the risks, for the safety of the child she's had to implement a fairly rigorous safer-sex policy to protect the health of her unborn child.
Again, she's very sex-positive, very poly, and very not the jealous type.
However, she also has never had any strain of herpes. Her fertility clinic determined this using the most rigorous testing methods - you rarely see std clinics test for HSV1, so a lot of people don't even know they have it. After some research and talking with her doctor, she discovered that if she catches herpes right now and is dealing with a primary outbreak while pregnant, her child could be seriously harmed.
So right now she's using barriers for everything, including oral sex, and is not open-mouth kissing anyone, including the father of her child.
This way she can continue to enjoy her partners without worrying about what they might be bringing home to her and her baby. Or having to act like a Nazi information retrieval agent. Or asking them to stop open-mouth kissing other folks, or using barriers for oral sex. And she just can't leave any room for errors in judgement, lax reporting, or plain old lying right now. This plan seems to be working for her!
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sexual fluidity while pregnant
Sun, August 5, 2007 - 9:52 PMbeing pregnant i have found my libido somewhat lacking...i feel a sense of deep closeness physically emotionally and mentally with the soon-to-be-father of this little budding one. i am not sure i would classify my experience as monogamous at this time, but exclusive yes--and very non-lusty for whatever reason. i do not and have not and do not anticipate feeling fearful of my partner seeking out others during this time.
i am, however decidedly disinterested in roving while pregnant.
my 2 cents
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Re: fuidity during pregnancy
Tue, August 7, 2007 - 12:44 PMI was strangely protective of my body when pregnant. We experimented a little, but I was highly disinterested in penetrative sex with anyone but him. It felt like some primitive survival type instinct to protect myself and my little babies. I'd always wondered how common it was (or wasn't) for people with more fluid ideas about relationships, so I'm really interested in what others have to say on the topic. -
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Re: fluidity during pregnancy
Tue, August 7, 2007 - 8:01 PMBiology and instincts aside...it just didn't sit well for me to know that my parter was out every night carousing around town w/ a young trophy girl at his side while i was at home w/ our child. I am still very bitter, angry, and hurt, because i feel like i didn't recieve the presence from him that a new momma requires. It was hard to ask him to stay home when there wasn't really anything i needed him to DO. What i really needed was for him to say, "if you are gonna be home, than so am i, b/c we are in this together". i needed him to witness, hold space, and just be present w/ us. I think back on the first 6 months of Mateo's life through a blur of tears, angry fights, and feeling like i was literally being ripped into a million pieces. I really needed someone to just be there with me and i ended up feeling really abandoned. somehow we survived through that time...and i feel like myself again. However i wonder how much irreversable damage the relationship between my partner and I has sustained. I am eternally committed to him as the father of my child, but as someone who i really feel like i can share true intimacy with...i wonder. Now my passion for him is waning...i feel ready to explore the territory outside of my little triad. I really wonder if it is functional to date other people when you are nesting, birthing, and bringing such a wee one into the world. I had this intuitive thought that when Mateo was 1yr that i would feel much more comfortable with us all loosening up our tight circle...it seems to be the case. -
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Re: fluidity during pregnancy
Thu, August 9, 2007 - 11:16 AMyeah, it's a strange thing. I'm definately more home and hearth than I used to be, and he is too. Raising kids is damned hard, especially in the beginning. I personally think being inwardly focused on your relationship during that time is a smart thing to do. He's not agreed with me at particular points in time, but overall on the whole, we're in sync. We're slogging though some mire at the moment, and are inwardly focused on our own relationship again. We'd started to date someone, but it just wasn't meshing well, so we're trying to push through it, and then we'll try again.
I guess all I'm really saying is pay attention to how you're feeling, especially when/if it's different than your norm. He may not be cognicent of where you're at, and knowing that it's (probably) can often help when things seem to shift/change unexpectedly and suddenly. do you think he really knows where you're at emotionally and how you really feel??
hang in there, and be patient with each other.... it's more important now than ever.
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Re: fluidity during pregnancy
Tue, January 15, 2008 - 3:34 PMReading your post made me realize that discussion of values, responsibilities, and fatherhood and what that means to both of you is something I'll do before i become pregnant. Hidden sexism could make him feel like childcare isn't his responsibility.
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Re: fuidity during pregnancy
Thu, August 9, 2007 - 3:24 PMOkay, I'll say it. It's probably hormonal.
Many species adapt a more monogamous (as far as keeping company) life during pregnancy and for a while after delivery, even ones that are not, by nature, monogamous. The male of the species often goes through the same thing, and as I man I certainly feel the pull, though human nature seems to have all but stamped that out.
As I always say, go with the flow, do what you feel, not what you *are*.
And all will be well.
Namaste :) -
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Re: fluidity during pregnancy
Fri, August 10, 2007 - 4:13 PMYou said it more eloquently, (not to mention more succinctly) than I did. Nicely put! -
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Re: fluidity during pregnancy
Wed, November 28, 2007 - 7:30 PMFollow your own emotional compass. It will tell you what is best for you. That's the beauty of fluidity. -
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Re: fluidity during pregnancy
Mon, January 7, 2008 - 10:36 AMI truly believe that when you are at home with the baby if you want the other person to also be home with the baby (when they are new) that that is one time that if they don't respect that it isn't right. Especially when as the mother you have way less choice about whether you can just walk away or not and it is not fair for men to shove that in your face if you have to struggle with it.
Babies are not easy and even if it doesn't seem like anything specific, they take alot of energy just for regular care and a new momma often needs a good amount of energy coming in in order to sustain the output that goes into the new baby. They often need added security too. Pregnancy is the same.
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Re: fuidity during pregnancy
Thu, January 10, 2008 - 2:09 AMI think your feelings are totally natural and I strongly believe that your man should honor them... if you honestly articulate to him the way you feel.
Becoming a mother is huge. So is becoming a father... Although we guys don't have to take on the personal physical change we do have to grow spiritually ans responsibly. Honoring the mother sis key to success.
At the same time, while it's completely normal for pregnant and postpartum mothers to feel less of a sex drive, this is simply not the case with us gents. So there is a balance that needs to be found. I would use the word "honored" here. Both partners need to go the extra distance... Together you are making another. It' the real deal.