what about kids???

topic posted Wed, November 1, 2006 - 9:28 PM by  phoenix
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i'm exploring more fluid relations and in-joying the discoveries.
i am a bit stumped on balancing this dance as a conscious single mother of a two year old boy.
any words of wisdom?!?
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phoenix
Colorado
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  • Re: what about kids???

    Thu, November 2, 2006 - 1:02 AM
    I am a single father of 2 boys and I have been involved in a fluid relationship with a woman who is married and also has 2 children.

    Since the energy of the relationship was positive and there was no deception there seemed to be no adverse impact on my children. The woman's daughter seemed to dislike me and the situation but her son seemed OK with me and the relationship as did her husband. In the end I think her daughter accepted the situation and her mother never tried to influence her feeling for me from what I know. Everything was kept very open and flowed cleanly as a result. I think things are much harder on children when there is not an energy that is based on truth and positive expressions of love.

    I feel that in the end it was very positive for my boys to see an open loving relationship. Their mother and I had a messy divorce and they saw me suffering in my self pity. They also got to see how a loving relationship lifted my spirits. In addition this beautiful woman showered them with love when she was around them and that blessing was appeciated by all of us. Ther was never any pretense that she would be around forever so they didn't miss her terribly when she made the choice to stop spending time around us.

    IMHO it's all good as long is it is based on love and honesty. Should you son start getting very attached to any one individual that could get sticky. The child phychologist that I worked with said that is common in traditional relationships but I think there is much less risk if the relationship is fluid from the onset. As a wise woman once told me, "the more people that are loving your kids the better".
    • Re: what about kids???

      Thu, November 2, 2006 - 7:03 PM
      I need to agree with you on this. I am a mother of 2 boys. Our tribe has 10 individuals all told with various involvement with one another. There are also a total of 6 kids involved. Some of the partners are out of state, so there is limited contact. Everyone knows and cares for one another, talk daily, and we each see our respective partners as often as we are able. I can only speak on my perspective. My two boys care for my primary partner deeply. His wife likes my kids and occasionally babysits so we can go out. My kids also care for my other partners and frequently ask how they are doing because they do not get to see them as often. My oldest has asked me why I am in a poly relationship and I tell him my reasons, which he seems to understand. I have also talked to him about monogamy, and re-enforced the idea that whatever his choice, he needs to be sure to choose partners that feel the same, and that it would be unfair of him to try to change a partner to another model of relationship. My younger one does not seem to be too interested in relationships yet.

      Whatever they choose, they know I will accept them, whether it be Mono, poly, bi, homo or hetero, or any combination. They know that my only caveat is that they be 100% honest and open in communication with whomever they are involved with.
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        Re: what about kids???

        Fri, November 3, 2006 - 6:49 AM
        namaste,

        that is wonderful what everyone is doing.

        i am divorced. i was not poly when married, but came out and have been since (and felt it before).

        basically i tell my kids that most people are monoamorous (one end of a scale) and i am poly (other end of the scale) and i have more than one love at a time. they know there could be 2-4 loves usually floating around in my life at any given time (not all sexual).

        they are ok with meeting my different people, but not hanging out with them too much, or at all (depending on the person). basically they would prefer to just have me and their dad in their life, so i respect that and it is very seldom that they see me with my loves, as the kids only see each parent 1/2 the week. i would prefer that they see the loving behavior modelled more, but at least they see it sometimes and i talk to them about people who they don't see, etc. i like to do things with them in our limited time together.

        overall i think it is working out and so far they don't seem too bothered that i am poly, and fluid as well.

        xo
        beki
        • Re: what about kids???

          Fri, November 3, 2006 - 8:04 AM
          Hi Beki,

          How old are your kids? Just curious. I'm recently separated and will be facing similar issues. Although in my case, my poly status was established to some degree already and while not the reason for the split was the catalyst thereof.

          This is such an important discussion -- the safety and security and well being of our kids is paramount.
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            Re: what about kids???

            Fri, November 3, 2006 - 10:32 AM
            namaste,

            i wanted to say too that yes, for security, no new people can know where i live. my new policy, unless i am so sure, and i would have to know the person for months...

            they are getting older. i think kids really don't understand the whole dating/poly thing and all until they are maybe 8? or so.

            always i said that i have many loves, no attachment worries here, more the safety and security. you read my mind.

            xo
            beki
            • Re: what about kids???

              Fri, November 3, 2006 - 4:01 PM
              For me, the length of time is not really an issue any more, as I have not added any new loves to the mix, other than those I have come to love that were already in the tribe. I am the newest addition, and I have been in the tribe now for a year and a half.
    • Re: what about kids???

      Fri, November 3, 2006 - 11:07 PM
      thanks so much for the insight...i'm still wrestling with some things. My (former) partner and I are going through the lesson of really open and honest interaction. We had agreed to share our bodies with only each other so that we could develop and revel in our partnership before we let others in. We didn't talk enough about where the other was at and so when he shared his body with someone, i felt betrayed for not being aware of his heart space. Where does the line between agreements and fluidity end?????
  • Re: what about kids???

    Sat, November 25, 2006 - 2:13 PM
    I am new to this group but not to the life style. I was married for many many many years (felt like 5000). I always had girlfriends during those years. My son always met them and knew them. Being with women was always a more fluid thing for me. I am divorced and have been dating a wonderful man. Before I got too deeply involved with him my son met him and my other guy friends. I wanted his honest opinion on them before I let any of the relationships go any further. He just happened to choose the same guy I had my heart set on. If he would have chosen someone else I would have explored the reasons and figured it out. My son is number one on the list of priorities.

    Now that I am in an LTR with this wonderful guy we have moved to another step in the relationship. We agreed early on that eventually I would require a woman in my life. It is a major part of who I am. But we needed to establish ourselves as a couple first and work through all those bumps that couples go through. Well we finally got to that point and I found a wonderful woman that he and I both agreed on and that we BOTH have a relationship with.

    Once we all three established some parameters we then discussed kids.. she has one and I have mine. I discussed what was going on with my son. At first he was a bit "grossed out" as he says. But he knows that this is the type of relationship that makes me complete. He met her and then met her child.

    So far so good. Everyone gets along and everyone is happy. I just had to make sure it was a fit for everyone. Afterall this is not just "ALL ABOUT ME".
    • Re: what about kids???

      Sat, January 6, 2007 - 12:25 PM
      my daughter likes all the ones that have been good enough to meet her
      In the early days i wasnt as good at choosing good peope but my conciousness about her has bhelped me with that
      sad but true
      recently she has been excited when we go to see any of the ones I love
      we only recently had any jealousy from her about my attentions
      as she was concerned i might love this one more than her
      i always reassure her that thats not possible
      for a while I have tried to tell her that I may love someone as much in a different way but never more than her
      because I love her as much as is possible
      For her its really about her security but her dad was never really in our lives for long
      and shes an extremly socil creative creature who has been a part of multiple extended family type social groups
      and households so shes used to multiple adults being around and the multiple ways people interact with each other
      just a couple brief stints as he was not healthy enough in the early parts
  • Re: what about kids???

    Sat, January 6, 2007 - 4:06 PM
    I think that the most important thing with raising kids is to be honest with them about who you are. Sometimes this is hard, but it is how they learn to in turn be honest with themselves and others, and learn to love themselves.
  • Re: what about kids???

    Sun, February 18, 2007 - 4:51 PM
    I am really interested in "what about pregnancy and post partum?" I am 7mo post partum with my first child and just now I feel myself re-opening to my open fluid view of relationships. During my pregnancy and post-partum time I felt very very very fearful of my partner being with any other woman. I always was willing to challenge myself to be okay w/ it during this time, but our expirences until lately were disasterous. I'm curious if any one else felt this overwhelming biological need to be monogamous during this highly emotional and hormonal time! - M
    • Re: what about kids???

      Sun, February 18, 2007 - 5:14 PM
      i do not have kids, but i have worked with them and been around them 4 many years. all i have 2 add is an agreement with the whole honesty perspective, being sure of whom your "relating" with b 4 bringing them into your child's world, and... separately- that kids (even 3yrs. old) understand things very well, on an intuitive level if not mentally as well. don't underestimate the understanding of a child- they are brilliant and less "fettered" than us as older counterparts. let them also speak and process their feelings in the matter.

      gr8 post. gr8 responses. i love U all (conscious and caring) and welcome your friendship.

      blessings and sat nam,

      Tasi

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