question about open relationships/poly

topic posted Fri, May 15, 2009 - 11:39 PM by  offlinemarquis
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i need someone i can talk to about open relationships. a lil brief comment: i have been asking about this and i keep getting people who never even done an open relationship, tells me i just need to fuck around (which i dont), cheating, and all that other garbage i dont care to hear when it comes to relationship advice.

anyway, i am a bisexual woman and no i havent been with a woman. no, i am not bicurious. ive always liked girls since i was 10 yrs old, i do remember checking out girls secretly but didnt know what the feelings were. so, as i got older, i started checking out girls more often than boys even in high school. for the record, i am not interested in women for the sex, 3sums, or quickies. i’m interested in women to have a normal relationship, why is that such a problem for people when i tell them that?

i don’t use my sexuality as an excuse to get laid or get a bf. i met my bf in 05, i used my brain when i met him. he saw my myspace profile and asked about my sexuality even though it does say bisexual and i still told him about it anyway. he asked, i gave him answers and i never twisted anything about my sexuality just to make up a story. he has no interest in having a 3sum with me and another woman. my bf doesn’t want to be part of my relationships with women and i make that clear. i was trying to meet girls b4 i even met him, so ppl make me feel like it’s my fault for not meeting a woman much quicker! he's very supportive of my sexuality.

with most of the past advice ive gotten about this, all i got was dumb ignorant, never been there done that kind of advice. i’m not being rude, i just don’t like taking advice where ppl havent experienced something in their life. he doesn’t want to take a break while i explore my sexuality, my bf wants to do this together. also, ppl have told me that i should take a break so i can explore on my own. he trusts me a lot. we have talked about an open relationship like polyamory. we have talked about it a lot, and we still need to talk more about it.

someone told me i should speak to a therapist, i dont need to speak to a professional about this. 99% of counselors/therapists don’t even know anything about humans to begin with nor do they know anything about relationships when most of them won’t counsel people on open relationships, polyamory, or lgbt. i always get my advice from people who actually experienced something in their life and went through it.

my question is with open relationships, what am i doing wrong when it comes to finding a girl to meet? on online dating sites, i try to make my ads specific as i can, but others felt i wasn’t being upfront when i was. i dont know what else i could say and i dont like being accused of lying when it’s most ppl’s fault for not taking the time to ask me questions, it’s just more assumptions than intelligence. if anyone has any advice or suggestions, please let me know nicely! :)
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marquis
Phoenix
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  • Re: question about open relationships/poly

    Sun, May 17, 2009 - 7:35 PM
    I'd suggest staying away from dating websites :) just my personal thing

    but going and hanging with group things... if you're kinky, the s/M munches is a wonderful option. thers' also fairy meet ups, burning man... all great places to go meet open minded ppl in person.
    • Re: question about open relationships/poly

      Sun, May 24, 2009 - 10:34 PM
      ive heard of burning man, i could never understand it. s/m? u mean submissive and that kind of stuff? if so, im very close minded about that, i mean im kinky but i dont do that kind of weird freak nasty kind of sex. fairy meetups? sounds interesting sounds like one of those fairy events we have in AZ. dating sites never seem to work 4 me, all i got was rude selfish indecisive ppl who didnt know anything about life and didnt know what they wanted.
      • Re: question about open relationships/poly

        Tue, May 26, 2009 - 10:07 AM
        Hi Marquis,

        A couple of things. First there is a large cross between the open and honest polyamorous community and the consensual BDSM community. Try to keep a bit of an open mind when it comes to kinky SM/sex. It's only "weird freak nasty" when you;ve never been introduced to it.

        Back to your question though. The best way I think is to find a community like the poly or SM crowds. You also might try stopping by any bars that the lesbians hang around and see if you get picked up. Just be clear that you're bi.

        Burning Man. All the fun and excitement you can pack into 8 days. Not all SM. Not all Poly. Not all freaks.

        Hugs,

        Rig Daddy
        • Re: question about open relationships/poly

          Tue, May 26, 2009 - 11:29 PM
          ive seen enough of the sm/bdsm and i dont agree with it at all. what i mean is i seen it in porn and i dont believe in pleasure and pain mixing together!! there is a reason why pain is pain and please is pleasure. ive met lots of ppl online who enjoy the bdsm, i feel its against my civil rights to me as a woman. the ones i met who liked bdsm, they could never tell me why do they enjoy bein humiliated? i do enjoy getting spanked by my boyfriend, thats it! thats why i call it freak nasty sex cux i dont believe in bdsm as sex! its not normal for me at all nor would i ever think about trying it.
          • Re: question about open relationships/poly

            Wed, May 27, 2009 - 7:19 AM
            wow. I feel like I've just been slapped.

            you need to respect other peoples' appreciations for things; no reason to bad mouth areas of interest. it's like if you dont like anal, theres' no reason to tell other people to not partake.

            as for why i like to be humiliated.... I'm not in that crowd, and there's a lot of variation within the SM community of what people like or want. what I generally seek from being a bottom is to feel taken care of and safe for a while, and the power exchange gives that to me very well.

            I'm not sure where you are. the COMfy group is great, and it's in the northwest. Aside from that, i'd say the lesbian bars might be the way for you to go. Just be aware that the poly and SM crowds DO mix, and people dont like to be bad mouthed about it.
            • Re: question about open relationships/poly

              Wed, May 27, 2009 - 10:50 AM
              nadie, its not bad mouthing, its my opinion! geez! i cant believe u took that up ur ass! im sorry but i dont like bdsm, u need to respect my opinion! i live in AZ. i thought about the lesbian bars, i didnt hear anything nice about them. a tranny i talk to on myspace told me some of the ones she went to they were mean to her. if someone asks me about my opinion, i will give it to them. u ask me about my opinion, i gave it 2 u and if my opinion was so offensive, then u shouldnt of asked! thats what i tell ppl all the time. i dont sugarcoat my opinions for anyone, i thought i made that clear in other poly groups! we are soo oversensitive in this country!!!
            • Re: question about open relationships/poly

              Wed, May 27, 2009 - 10:57 AM
              btw nadie, u sound like my ex friend. bashing my opinion cuz i dont simply agree with u. i find it rude to push ur opinion down my throat - i dont like ppl who do that. i wasnt tellin anyone to not partake in sm/bdsm, im just saying its humiliating and degrading on both sides male and female.
          • Re: question about open relationships/poly

            Wed, May 27, 2009 - 8:39 AM
            Dear Marquis,

            PLEASE, PLEASE keep an open mind about CONSENSUAL BDSM.

            You say you enjoy being spanked. In SO MANY WAYS that is no different than what we do in the SM community.

            I promise, if you learn about consensual SM and our community you will see that in NO WAY are your rights, civil or otherwise, abridged. In no way is it abuse.

            Your profile lists you as living in Phoenix. There is a wonderful, LOVING SM community there. I'm sure there are classes and other venues you can learn more.

            Hugs,

            Rig Daddy
            • Re: question about open relationships/poly

              Wed, May 27, 2009 - 10:56 AM
              yea, ive heard about the SM community in AZ. i didnt know the poly and sm communities mix together, i think they should be separated to me. yes, i do enjoy being spanked. ive seen where ppl were tied up, blind folded, and the master orders them around like the person isnt even human. i always heard stories where chicks did bdsm and called the cops to claim they were raped. i think i heard of classes on sm that ppl can take. id rather not be viewed by ppl that i will do anything willingly in the bedroom cuz im not that kind of chick.
              • Re: question about open relationships/poly

                Wed, May 27, 2009 - 11:18 AM
                Hon, people do only what they want to do in consensual SM.
                1: The SM porn (straight) you see on the internet is BS and made to look horrible in my mind.
                2: People tied up, blind folded and "ordered" around? They wanted to do that.
                3: Forget about the ordered to do stuff but think about being tied up and blindfolded by your boy friend before he gives you a spanking.
                4: The SM community doesn't normally classify anyone as "that kind of chick" unless that person WANTS it that way.

                Hugs,

                RD
                • Re: question about open relationships/poly

                  Wed, May 27, 2009 - 12:10 PM
                  this topic of SM - sadism and masochism is pretty sad to me. i remember i did some research on bdsm and i couldnt believe what i read! other ppl outside the sm community would classify a woman as "that kind of girl" who is willing to do anything and loves to be controlled! since when does the poly and sm communities mix?! ive met 2 many ppl in chatrooms who were into bdsm, its funny they are always the old ppl hardly any young ppl.

                  ive been humiliated in the bedroom in the past b4 i met my bf, i wanted to either cry or beat the shit out of the last guy i was screwing for making me look like an idiot! sex is not enjoyable if u get off on humiliating someone, thats like someone sayin i get off on fucking a dead person! i also met some women online who were into bdsm as well. i call these ppl narcassis! i love normal sex and theres nothin normal about bdsm i dont trust it one bit! i know what i like in the bedroom and it certainly isnt that! my boyfriend hates bdsm, he said that is the most pathetic loser kind of sex he has ever seen in his life! he calls ppl who are into bdsm losers, freaks, weirdos, ppl who cant seem to perform real sex. thats how my bf sees ppl like that.
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                    Re: question about open relationships/poly

                    Wed, May 27, 2009 - 2:29 PM
                    Wow such pent up anger about BDSM. And your boyfriend has that anger too.

                    I'm sorry you both have so many misconceptions, I won't try to fight that anger. You had a terrible NON-consensual experience being humiliated. That is not the kind of thing that happens within the consensual SM community.

                    Forget the chat rooms. Forget internet porn or people you meet online who are all bdsm. Go find the community and chat in person.

                    Sorry this thread got so hi-jacked.

                    Hugs,

                    Rig Daddy
                    • Please don't tell this woman to go chat with the BDSM community in person. She's been abusive and nasty in EVERY SINGLE forum I've seen her in (yes, I know I'm not being much better, but I've damned well seen enough and I believe in consequences for lousy behavior). I'm just waiting for her to show up in my submissives tribe and start telling us all that she felt some kind of need for domination, but all of that "submission" stuff and spanking makes her sick to her stomach and how can real women put up with that kind of shit.

                      But, thanks, Rig, for being a good person. It really shows here in this thread.
          • Re: question about open relationships/poly

            Mon, July 6, 2009 - 12:31 AM
            There are many types of sexuality, as many as there are people and couplings going on around the world. Bdsm isn't all about female submission or humiliation. There are as many men who like to be submissive as some women. There are many people who like both depending on mood or partner. For some like myself it's the exhilaration of not knowing where the next lick bite kiss caress is going to fall. The thrill of having to wait to reciprocate the touch by being restrained. The pleasure of giving my partner pleasure. Not so much about control or submission. You can have the bd without the sm or vise verse. Why do you like sex? That is the same as asking a person why they like bdsm.......It feels good to them. Even if it does not to you, don't explore farther if you don't want to that's your choice along with your partners. There are small lines that many people cross like being spanked.... sorry love that's part of bdsm just a vanilla form like mild biting or scratching.
            Nobody was trying to attack you, just offer advice. Unfortunately your posts are crossing a line to mildly hostile. You were offended and (hopefully) inadvertently offended other people here. Easy to do with sensitive topics like sex and religion.
            Last word of advice for you and your boyfriend communicate. Which you stated you are talking about it and will continue to do so. When getting into these types of relationships that is the best thing to do for you and your prospective partners. Open honest upfront communication. There are alternative type of counseling offered thought gay lesbian outreach resource's on how to properly get into open relationships. I have friends take them here in Washington and in California. That is most likely why somebody made that suggestion before. Oh ya and relax lol.
  • Re: question about open relationships/poly

    Wed, June 10, 2009 - 5:27 AM
    Right, except that big tribe of poly bi girls you trolled about 6 months ago and then told off. We had experience we tried to share. You just wouldn't listen to us. I still don't know whether to take you seriously or not. I can't decide if you're confused and clueless or if you're just a troll. Whatever, you're IRRITATING.
  • Re: question about open relationships/poly

    Tue, July 28, 2009 - 5:53 PM
    i hoped everyone enjoyed their shit talking since i want no part of that. i got myself a gf, met her off of a dating site. she is 19 and bi knows about my bf and but not least...HAS NO INTEREST IN MY BF!!! didnt i say multiple times in multiple poly tribes that my bf doesnt want another woman for himself? he only wants me and me only? it's a damn triad people! look it up!!

    my gf and i already talked about this that she only wants to be with me and me only - no 3sums or nothin. my gf and bf are strictly friends! since no one in here couldnt even understand the english language all that well. my gf and i have been together for a month and she is the love of my life!

    if ppl would take the time to actually read instead of assuming, which only makes u look like a fool in the end, this wouldnt be an argument! it would just be a peaceful discussion, so yea i had to figure this out for myself since nobody couldnt give me any real answers since most of yall talk like u just started poly today! at least i took a lot of time to do my research b4 i jumped into somethin!

    theres ur update!
    • Re: question about open relationships/poly

      Fri, August 7, 2009 - 1:00 PM
      "i hoped everyone enjoyed their shit talking since i want no part of that.

      ....

      since no one in here couldnt even understand the english language all that well.

      ....

      if ppl would take the time to actually read instead of assuming, which only makes u look like a fool in the end, this wouldnt be an argument! it would just be a peaceful discussion, so yea i had to figure this out for myself since nobody couldnt give me any real answers since most of yall talk like u just started poly today! at least i took a lot of time to do my research b4 i jumped into somethin!""

      Oh, hell. Maybe I'd like for you to stick around after all. Never have I seen such delicious irony. "Since no on in here couldnt even understand the english language all that well." Hilarious! Was that intentional? Perhaps I'll pick up some writing skills from you.

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